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B 1892 october

Adopted and counted in 1910 federal census

Florence Gertrude Allford Born NY-Parents English as were  both boarders birthyear 1889 age 11 years at time of enumeration (1910)

First Enumerated as the adopted daughter of

Albert and Martha

Living in a house with her adopted parents along with

2 boarders

Charles A Rollinson

Edward A Machin

House located Nelson Street no number given

Source 12^th US Census Syracuse 10^th Ward SD 12 ED 118 Sheet 2 (B)

Enumerated 06/05/1900

Are her parents and Florence’s mother listed as a neighbor to her Nelson Street house? was there a related family to the Allford’s living on the same street? Or was this a family that took in a non-biological related baby from someone who due to circumstances unable to raise her…?

Pg 15 1892 NY census only had Albert and Martha

No children of there own Florence not adopted by the date of census and no boarders on fate enumerated by state 02/16/1892

NYS Census 3^rd ED 9^th ward Syracuse

Reclaim the records internet archives October 1889 (assumed birth month and year) no birth parents or where birth was recorded- NYS Birth index 1889 reclaim the records- there is 56 individuals named Florence the list below are those who near listed as sharing presumed birth month:

Evans Florence G Oct 3  place troy

Frazier Florence A Oct 10 place Watertown

Gillet Florence  Oct 23 place Stuyvesant

Johnson Florence Oct 31 place Aurora

No first name Assumed Florence since location is town of, Oct 28

https://archive.org/details/New_York_State_Birth_Index_1889/page/n837/mode/1up?q=Florence

Clifford Grant (possibly Florence’s son by marriage)

Washington State census Snohomish County dist. 3

1940 census SD 2 ED 31-158

Florence Stack 26 sept 1900-appears to be Onondaga township for place of birth

Link: New York, United States records,” images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHK-ZQSP-MSS2?view=index : Dec 22, 2024), image 791 of 940;-reclaim the records is this her adopted name- doubtful

Obituary Syracuse Herald Fulton History

Martha Allford wife of Albert Allford

November 7^th 1907

Funeral at old house 133 Nelson Street 10^th Ward

Church St Marks for Service

Burial Oakwood Cemetery

Lists her among survivors

From 1900 (12^th) federal census familysearch collection SD 12 ED 118 sheet 2 160/33/39 Nelson Street

Alfred b oct 181859 age 40 England as were parents 1881 naturalization

Martha b aug 1862 age 37 ditto 1882 naturalization

Florence G (Gertrude) adopted b oct 1889 10 b NY and parents were English

Albert Allford member of Lord Frederick Cavendish Lodge

Apparently referred to as Son’s of St. George

Fulton history from

Tuesday the Syracuse journal April 25 1905 column 1 page 5

Post Standard Friday am feb 6 1909

Alfred Allford succeeds Crucible Steel leader to the post after 3 men resign

more details- might any of flo’s adopted family have her ib their tree?

And who were Florence Gertrude’s parents? Was she raised by parents (neighbors?) and then adopted out. Born in october of 1892, and listed as adopted in the 1910 federal census. She had a busy childhood, was she fostered and then adopted??? Adopted parents Arthur and Martha Allford)

Mr Heaney was admitted to the Willard State Hospital in Ovid Seneca County NY in 1903

He died in 1942

There isn’t much to go on, except he may have lived in Sennett Township Seneca County. And from various legal notices, we know his father was John and nother Mary. From deeds in 1912, the mother’s property, which had been disposed of by partitioning of the properties, was sold during 1912. Some was sold to John and others to private buyers. It is not known if friends or as yet unknown family members purchased the parcel. What is known the while Francis J was the grantor, a court appointed refereee may have assisted him, the year was 1912, some 9 years after being admitted to Willard. We know that he was committed to Willard by Julia and maybe his father John, Fear for family safety appears to be the reason…

this if for future reference only and it pertains to NYS only.

Apparently there was a time when death announcements got published and were the precursor to doing the obit..the announcement let those in the deceased’s social circle and family members that they had passed, it’s stuff you wont probably find in a published obit.There will be a tentative out line of where services may be held (Home,Church and Now I find that the state had provisions for publishing in newspaper the fact that an instrument in writing (will) was going to be proved in surrogate court before the judge to handle the matter. all known next of kin were required to attend, any one younger than 21 were asked to bring their guardian. Not having one or brining one meant you got a court appointed one. Date was established and the notice was printed over a period of weeks.

I have seen other files where creditors/debtors were listed and inventory of real and personal property were generated and values were established….. during the probate process monetary values will accepted, debt may be resolved and outstanding credits will also be finalized…

In the time frame listed above, one must first take into account that this was before record keeping was just starting. In the case of NY, counting people wasn’t there first goal, extabliching at the town and county level who owned various parcels of real property so that taxes levied on the land could be collected from the proper owners-living on the land with a proper deed to show proof of ownership or were absentee owners or lots were unclaimed or no owner could be identified. In NY a state law requiring town clerks (of those towns that had been created) were required from 1799-1804. Having deeds recorded where the original owner lived or at the county clerk’s office was required to be filed. Until recording things became law, if the owner and buyer had a copy of the title to property, and the seller agreed in writing to warrant and defend the buyers ownership of the land in perpetuity.

When the federal census was started 1790 and up through 1840, only the head of household was named. Those with the personso named was M or F and free or slave. It wasn’t until 1850 that that census became to count and name everyone in a given household. Babies young than 1 year old were usually listed as infant.

So between 1790 and 1840 the federal census has the surname of the one who was the head of household. Some censuses were taken by the state on the half decade. For those counties created at the time of the state census. Some have survived and some have not. People moved a lot, I have noticed this movement was basically to “earn there salt” or went to wherever prosperity seemed to have set up shop or where opportunity has beconded

Holland land company records were digitized and now held by the library at SUNY Fredonia NY. They searchable online. It is quite a collection including maps, Deeds can be searched thru Genesee County deeds at family search.org-will be quite a search but may point you in the right direction..hope this helps

this is a story about finding certain answers in a cemetery that became the burial place for the 1st generation immigrants to physical place. Buried by those who used a certain cemetery, usually associated with a Church. The burial/headstones I found were part of St Mary’s Roman Catholic Church in East Arcade Wyoming County NY. To honor those of Irish descent in this cemetery, each stone paid homage to the home parish in Ireland, by having this information a researcher doing a family line will have location in Ireland by tracing the home parish location. One can presume that the names listed are the correct one, or the names used in the old country. Not sure how one would find the information online since my discovery was made through the information found at the Church, that the cemetery was used by the communicants of the Church

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